Discussion 10: The Four Natural Heresies

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HERESY SERIES: PART 1

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Question: Which of the Four Natural Heresies do you think Christians today are most likely to find alluring or true?

Background: Friedrich Schleiermacher (1768–1834) was a Prussian pastor, professor, and theologian who made significant contributions to numerous fields of study including philosophy, theology, and hermeneutics. He is most commonly referred to as the Father of Liberal Theology. As we learned in Discussion Topic 6, Schleiermacher was also known as the Father of Modern Hermeneutics. We also learned in Discussion Topic 6 that Schleiermacher’s first great work was On Religion (1799). But Schleiermacher magnum opus was his systematic theology textbook called The Christian Faith.  This was first published in 1821, with a highly modified second edition being subsequently published in 1830. As with On Religion, The Christian Faith teaches that the basis of dogmatic theology is personal religious feelings, with the goal of achieving a sense of absolute dependence on God. To achieve this, Schleiermacher identifies four natural heresies that must be avoided. The following excerpt is from Section 22 of The Christian Faith, which is titled “The natural heresies in Christianity are the Docetic and the Nazarean, the Manichean and the Pelagian.”

Reading: Now, if the distinctive essence of Christianity consists in the fact that in it all religious emotions are related to the redemption wrought by Jesus of Nazareth, there will be two ways in which heresy can arise. That is to say: this fundamental formula will be retained in general (for otherwise the contradiction would be manifest and complete, so that participation in Christian communion could not even be desired), but either human nature will be so defined that a redemption in the strict sense cannot be accomplished, or the Redeemer will be defined in such a way that He cannot accomplish redemption. But each of these two cases, again, can appear in two different ways. As regards the former: if men are to be redeemed, they must both be in need of redemption and be capable of receiving it …

Now this is the unfailing consequence, if we suppose an Evil-in-itself as being original and opposed to God, and think of human nature as suffering from that inability by reason of a dominion which this original Evil exercises over it; and therefore we call this deviation the Manichean. But, on the other hand, suppose the ability to receive redemption is assumed so absolutely, and consequently any hindrance to the entry of the God-consciousness becomes so utterly infinitesimal, that at each particular moment in each individual it can be satisfactorily counterbalanced by an infinitesimal overweight. Then the need of redemption is reduced to zero, at least in the sense that it is no longer the need of one single Redeemer, but merely, for each person in one of his weak moments, the need of some other individual who, if only for the moment, is stronger as regards the eliciting of the God-consciousness. Thus redemption would not need to be the work of one particular Person, but would be a common work of all for all, in which, at most, some would only have a greater share than others; and this aberration we may with good reason call, as above, the Pelagian …

Turn now to the other kind of heresy. If Christ is to be the Redeemer, i.e. the real origin of constant living unhindered evocation of the God-consciousness, so that the participation of all others in it is mediated through Him alone, it is, on the one hand, necessary that He should enjoy an exclusive and peculiar superiority over all others, and, on the other hand, there must also be an essential likeness between Him and all men, because otherwise what He has to impart could not be the same as what they need. Therefore on this side also the general formula can be contradicted in two different ways, because each of these two requisites may be conceived so unlimitedly that the other no longer remains co-posited, but disappears. If the difference between Christ and those who are in need of redemption is made so unlimited that an essential likeness is incompatible with it, then His participation in human nature vanishes into a mere appearance; and consequently our God-consciousness, being something essentially different, cannot be derived from His, and redemption also is only an appearance. Now though the Docetics, properly so called, directly denied only the reality of the body of Christ, yet this likewise excludes the reality of human nature in His Person generally, since we never find body and soul given in separation from each other; and therefore we may fitly call this aberration the Docetic. Finally, if on the other hand the likeness of the Redeemer to those who are to be redeemed is made so unlimited that no room is left for a distinctive superiority as a constituent of His being, which must then be conceived under the same form as that of all other men, then there must ultimately be posited in Him also a need of redemption, however absolutely small, and the fundamental relationship is likewise essentially annulled. This aberration we call by the name given to those who are supposed first to have regarded Jesus entirely as an ordinary man, the Nazarean or Ebionitic. [Friedrich Schleiermacher, The Christian Faith, §22]

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  1. Paul K. Miller Avatar
    Paul K. Miller

    Hi Richard—I find Schleiermacher’s prose to be thick. I thought your video did a much better job of explaining the 4 “natural” heresies.
    Q: Is the Pelagian heresy akin to universalism? Everyone gets saved; there is no hell. (I suspect this heresy is attractive to a lot of people with and without a faith foundation.)

    1. Richard Avatar
      Richard

      I find that many of the German theologians are a bit “thick.” Perhaps it is a translation issue or just how they tend to write. Pelagius was not a universalist — quite the opposite. He felt that people are fully responsible for their sinful acts (and failure to perform good acts) since there is no original sin. Everyone will be judged and, according to Pelagius, the path of righteousness is narrow and only a few will therefore be saved. This is why he put such an emphasis on striving to live a perfectly sin-free life.

  2. Kraig Stanforth Avatar
    Kraig Stanforth

    I find FS to be the greater heretic to Christianity today. He is a relic of his age, influenced by European intellectuals like Kant his teachings have produced the most liberal teachings in Protestant churches that makes it unrecognizable today as Christian. To Schleiermacher, religion is primarily based not on doctrines but on feelings and experience. God is met in the feeling of “absolute dependence” on something greater than yourself. He denied a vicarious substitutionary atonement for sin, and instead defined sin as a lack of “God-consciousness”. Of course he blast Pelagian and semi pelagian beliefs because it teaches that man CAN do something, Can come to faith – he sees religious election only as the feeling of dependence on God. He denies the Trinity. He denies the existence of hell. FS should be studied for his erroneous conclusions and its impact on the world especially the German church and the liberal denominations . Intellectuals were and still are the first to be fooled and he is an example of this.

    I serious do not see how FS view of natural heresies even fit into todays situation. Manichaeism , Docetism are all arguments on the person of Christ – it is the issue of Greek thought on dualism. Jesus the God man had to be reconciled with their dualistic beliefs- it did not fit into their cultural pantheistic theology

  3. Ron Nelson Avatar
    Ron Nelson

    Rich and Kraig, I appreciate both your comments, balancing the view of FS and also the clear primer on the heresies. I am learning!

    On what heresies may be common today: The thing I struggle with the most in my faith is the exclusivity of Christianity. I believe it, but I think I am influenced by our culture as well as my own logic that tend to resist anyone who claims their way is the only way. I don’t know if any of the heresies are reflective of this error, but it does seem reflective of unitarianism.

  4. Ron Nelson Avatar
    Ron Nelson

    My daughter believes that we were all innocent when we were born, and the corruption of parents and others has damaged and corrupted us with their abuse and materialism, etc. She is syncretistic. Her beliefs are mostly Christian, but include elements from astrology, reincarnation, and our original innocence that we need somehow recover. I wonder if she really believes that we need redemption (Pelagianism) or to just somehow remember who we once were, and return to our roots? These are sensitive topics that I find hard to broach with her.

  5. Ron Nelson Avatar
    Ron Nelson

    Googled “what are current heresies?” AI returned…

    Several heresies, or false teachings, are frequently encountered in contemporary religious discourse. These include the idea that Jesus was just a good man, that the Bible should not be taken literally, that everyone will be saved regardless of belief, and that Christians are guaranteed health and wealth. Additionally, some modern heresies include the prosperity gospel, universalism, and the New Age movement.

    Here’s a more detailed look at some of these common heresies:

    Jesus Was Just a Good Guy:
    This heresy denies Jesus’ divinity, reducing him to a moral teacher rather than the Son of God.

    Don’t Take the Bible Too Literally:
    This view suggests that the Bible’s teachings should be interpreted symbolically or allegorically, rather than as literal truth.

    Universalism:
    This belief posits that everyone will eventually be saved, regardless of their faith or actions, contradicting traditional Christian teachings about hell and judgment.

    The Prosperity Gospel:
    This heresy claims that God blesses believers with health, wealth, and success as evidence of his favor, often neglecting the reality of suffering and hardship in the Christian life.

    New Age Movement:
    This movement incorporates various spiritual and philosophical ideas, often emphasizing self-deification, moral relativism, and the belief that individuals can create their own reality.

    Legalism:
    This heresy focuses on strict adherence to religious laws and rules, often neglecting the importance of grace and love, according to SermonCentral.

    Hyper-Grace:
    This heresy overemphasizes God’s grace to the point of minimizing the importance of repentance and obedience, according to SermonCentral.

    Arianism:
    This ancient heresy, which is still seen in some forms today, denies the full divinity of Jesus, according to Fordham Now and Wikipedia.

    These are just a few examples of the many heresies that continue to challenge Christian thought and practice today.

    1. Kraig Stanforth Avatar
      Kraig Stanforth

      Whoever this AI guy is – well he is pretty darn good. 😆 the heresy always begins by missing the fact of these two questions : Who is Jesus? What did he do? The first answer is the basis for the second. If Jesus is God incarnate then why did he come? The Good news is he came to save us by making himself a sacrifice for sin. These facts alone are the focus of the faith. All heretical beliefs substitute the work of Christ with something else ….. moralism …. Universalism ….. legalism …. Humanism … the list goes on.

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